He never hid who he was," says Tina Rivera-John, who began attending Calvary in the mid-'90s when she was 12 years old. Ill be praying for him, Diane and his kids as well as for the impact this will have on CC of Ftl. of course not, youll jump somewhere else. If this is all true theres a lot of lessons to learn here and maybe its time people started apologizing to Rick Warren who has demonized through the years. There may be a comment from a woman soon that may be of interest. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Antonio- its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. If these Calvanistic preterists would have been around at the time when Jesus ascended into heaven, as the disciples looked up, and the angels said, why do you stand here oh men of Galillee, for in the same way you saw him ascend, he will also descend! they would probably have started arguing with the angel, no he cant come back again corporeally, it would have to be spiritually, because its something that our little tiny minds cant understand, we have to reinterpret what you angels are saying, it must mean a spiritual return, dont you hear them saying, it must mean a spiritual mark on the forehead, it must mean a symbolic 1000 years, it must mean a symbolic 7 years. and on and on they go, they remind me of the Sadducees, who denied the miraculous, well the Preterists have nothing to look forward to as we live in exciting times and see prophecies unfolding before our eyes, they are the nay saying Sadducees of our time, and they want to be included within the pale of orthodoxy, as they follow doctrines that deny the power of God and negate the promises of his soon return! Coys church is listed by Outreach magazine as the 14th largest church in the U.S., and one of the fastest growing. Frankly, they have been the source of the majority of the venom but I think most of us realize these are people in a sort of shock at the news, who are hurting and whose trust has been violated and are lashing out. Ill let the heavy hitters take the rest of the shift. Yes, God judged him, but was restored, and he was still king, leading the people. She was approving the operation paperwork at that moment. From what I understand, many employed knew something was going down for a long time. Its a wonderful way to live, Lorenzo. These guys are not special and they are not anointed. Thats just the sad reality of sin I forgive you. That's not good enough, critics say. No one really being in charge overseeing what was going on. Phoenix Preacher 2023. I think it is a great post. He wasnt speaking about cannibalism or transubstantiation! Sharon Leone (Diane Farr) is Vinces wife and the Chief of Division 1501 on the CBS original drama, Fire Country. But Daddy held me down and the truck went over me, she said. we his congregation, and his family, are the ones that need to deal with it yes or no? Im not accountable to you for my sin. I meant no disrespect. Some are called to a higher level and accountability, and how much more do they need our prayer and support? Our focus as sinners needs to be on the health of our individual, intimate relationship with Him. Andy, And so if you cant read shall reign with him 1000 years as shall reign with him 1000 years, that is your personal issue. Hey, just show me the verse and the reference that it is an earthly rule I will change my position. Plus, listen to Greg Laurie talk about the situation on Pastors Perspectiveclearly the moral failure wasnt that Coy was driving solo in the carpool lane. I mark you as a false teacher whose teaching is, what were the words you used of others??? I feel bad for the wife and kids .BOB COY another Tiger Woodshey kids your father is that womanizer right..the media will have a field day. MLD, I would love to meet you someday, as you are the only man I have heard of who does not struggle with this in some way. Your right Dusty. If so how can one person handle it all? "When Chuck Smith died, there was nothing left to hold back all the competing factions," church critic Michael Newnham says. Comment. God knew from the beginning who would choose him or not choose him and based on what mans choice would be God chose man so predestination is mentioned but its according to his foreknowledge that he chose us as it clearly states in 1Peter 1:2. And the harmony in the animal kingdom and man will no longer be afraid of the wild beasts, only of the raging false teaching Calvinists! She didnt want Vince to have to make the difficult decision of whether to turn off her life support, either. The chapel's grounds are more expansive than those of many colleges and brim with high-end features: an Astroturf soccer field, a huge playroom stuffed with kid-size toy airplanes and plush animals, even a fine-dining restaurant where sermons and musical performances are live-streamed as guests feast on cooked-to-order steaks. Moe #470, where was the church leadership teaching the women to dress modestly for church? Coy has never been criminally charged, and if there were other cases of sexual harassment or abuse in the decades he ran Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, neither the church nor cops have revealed them. Because of their public persona, people like us are also passing judgement on her personal life. Much of that lashing out has been accusatory against the facts of the article, calling them lies and slander, with plenty of personal insults to the author. Your. He got caught for intent and not the deed. I suspect you are an attendee at CCFL and you are angry, but dont shoot the messenger.. there was a guy who did so once, reluctantly. Do you know the reason for binding Satan? Stay up to date with the latest Christian news! Become a member to support the independent voice of South Florida WHY WHY WHY? The case was closed in 2016. At the same time I will stand with every CC pastor who is seeking to do church the right way. just because others in the Body of Christ hold to different conclusions regarding aspects of theology doesnt require them to be wrong. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. He got the idea from Andy Stanley to do satellite churches. But I should know better than to engage with people who hold to replacement theology. 2016) Family; Parents: Not Available: Wife: Diane Coy (m. 1984, div. , -, -, ; , . Thats a fact. Bummer. All the CC folks on here are quick to point out that the CC leaders are sinners and flawed. Not only is he a humble man for someone who held that position for so long but pride does not throw you into that kind of sin, its if anything, coveting what is not yours that does. Your pastorking has gotten caught. Shortly after resigning, the disgraced pastor moved to Chattanooga, Tennessee, where Calvary Chapel has another affiliate church. One of the many reasons I left. It just shows you cant answer me, so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. If Coral Ridge is teaching doctrines that contradict Gods word, then Yes, they are leading Gods people astray! I think its cheap entertainment. Thank you. G, Thank you for your intercession last nightI forgot to turn it off this thread before I went to bed. This was the zenith of Jakes career. Praying for all involved and also praying for those casting stones and pointing fingers. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. In 2003, John Flores, a pastor at Smith's flagship in Costa Mesa, was arrested for having sex with the 15-year-old daughter of another pastor. Pride is something that could be seen from his pulpit for many years now. When we forget that, thats when we abuse the offices entrusted to us, men and women both. Mercy should not be misused to render punishment ineffective for both. , ; , . Who ever got that car? Just saying. CC will be ok, they will experience a separation of the wheat from the chaff which is healthy the sad part is there will be a number that like Peter will go back fishing but even they will not be lost if their heart truly is the Lords. Coy was fired from his consulting job at a South Florida nightclub, The Funky Biscuit. The church Coy helped build has moved on without him, but the national Calvary organization has struggled. You sound too often like a bored office worker that just likes to argue with people online. yup. "If you're foolish enough to go through with this story it would hurt a lot of people," he added, refusing to provide more details about the scandal. Some times I come in so late that I just leave again. following your convoluted reasoning, a wife should forgive her husband 490+ trysts with the bathsheba of his choice. Coy's life story is biblical in scope and obvious in moral lessons. But in 1981, his life changed forever thanks to an epic holiday hangover and his brother Jim, who'd already found religion. I must say that in knowing very little about the build up to this story, it appears that the church took much faster action in dismissing Coy than in the case of Mike Kestler. After all, the lion was supposed to lay down with the lamb, and yet, the lions keep eating the lambs. And prior to my outcries there was at least an additional decade of no accountability for the same sins. fscaduto, WELL PUT and that was precisely my point early on. When my Bible says that blindness has happened to Israel in part until the fullness of the Gentiles come in then anything else is garbage. Frankly, we are afraid to go anywhere now. We are all vulnerable. Pastor bob always taught us to keep our eyes on Christ not man. So we have to have a discussion on the subject: What exactly is church? Just one. That was followed by more worship. Hey , Martin Luthers disciple, You might be better off being a disciple of Jesus ! Have you surveyed all men to know that I am the only one. Like his mentor Smith, he looked for converts in unusual places. We are called to put our faith in Jesus not Bob. So what your all saying is your stronger than samson, you love God more than David and your wiser than Solomon. Bob, The Bob Coy topic has gone to seed as has this thread so it is a good parking place for just some general conversation it doesnt intrude on the newer threads. Let the rescue mission begin. Hugh, With MLD leading the way with his self righteous smug attitude!. Money really is the root of all kinds of evil. Skip Heitzig (born 1955) is the American founder and senior pastor of Calvary Church, a Calvary Chapel fellowship located in Albuquerque, New Mexico.External links. Really? The criteria for judging is that you have to be willing to be judged by the same measure! http://www.calvaryftl.org/about/pastorsstaff/pastors/# This is public and common knowledge and has been discussed and admitted from the pulpit I have been present when Fidel and Connie (Johns wife) admitted it to an audience. Grace and mercy abounds. This is a subject matter that is common and not just to Calvary Chapel but to all churches and to all spheres and walks of life, and something that no one has mentioned is the spiritual warfare we are in, and how anyone who is seeking to serve the Lord or preaches his word will be attacked, its not surprising that Bob Coy fell, what is surprising is that more men who are serving the Lord arent falling. I dont think so. While you are rejoicing in the fall of another you should do your home work and renounce you idol worship of your anti-Jewish god Luther, along with the gracious burn them at the stake unrepented Calvin. Why are we sitting there looking at people performing on stage anyway? The devil is a liar and trickster but God is the truth and his will shall be done. MLD, until you show me that you are wiling to disagree with Luther on anything, then it is, in essence, me discussing doctrine with a man that has been dead for centuries. Bob chose to do that.. Your medication seems to wear off right before bedspeak to your physician. The media ministry of the Active Word that distributes his Bible teachings through radio, television, and digital media has also been suspended, according to a statement from the church board. The danger with the Calvary Chapel transformation Gospel is that it makes your walk and your fruit the evidence of your official saved-ness. One too many run-on sentences of ignorance for me today. isnt she half of the problem? A woman told Coral Springs Police she had recently learned something terrible: A South Florida man had molested her daughter for years. calvaryftl.org is wasting no time wiping out the name of Bob Coy from their webpage. Then there was another put up for bid winning at a lower price. All. http://members.tranquility.net/~rwinkel/911/Wakeup2/MLKTrial.html. Id wager something huge that Bob is not who they all think he is. Im sorry for you and your pain. God takes this specific sin very seriously as He allows for divorce when it takes place. Why does the emphasis these days seem to be on altering The Message in a manner which appeals to the culture? Michael, mainstream christian media is PR only. We made a covenant, a lifelong commitment, so we both choose to honor each other and grow old together, day by day, raise a family and, some day, have our children bury us. We are all susceptible to temptation and sin until the day we are redeemed and changed incorruptible. Coy says he was never approached by the police about the allegations. If you love Me, keep My commandments. The words of our witness take to the air on the wings of our works. This is not uncommon among men. Again, shout it to the masses when its other peoples sins like gay marriage etcor make assistant pastors go before the church and confess (Bob Grenier did that stuff)but grace and mercy and lets give the family their privacy etc when its the Senior Pastors turn to face the music. The story has hit the local news in Fort Lauderdale now http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-calvary-chapel-resignation-20140406,0,5071679.story. If you believe that the posting of any material infringes your copyright, be sure to contact us through the contact form and your material will be removed! There was too much drama with Kennedys passing at Coral Ridge. Michael, they always try to make you the bad guybut we know you are clean. I go by erunner as I dont know if people would know who I am if I went by Allan so even though my name is known I stick with the moniker. It is difficult to go to church and see this level of temptation going on. Dusty you make an excellent point. Lets wait and see how many women he defiled. I had a CCer proclaim on the other blog one time, Chuck would NEVER lie!, and I commented, wow, thats amazingyou mean Chuck Smith is perfect now like Jesus and hes never lied since he became saved? Im just sick to death of Christians jumping all over each other when theyve fallen. Depression,anxiety and emotional paralysis can cloud your ability to make healthy decisions and achieve a happier life. It falsely teaches that a person must walk well enough to prove that they were saved. He sat on a U.S. presidential advisory board and received weekly updates straight from GOP mastermind Karl Rove. You hate the answer. It has nothing to do with the Bible. (1) Faith in Jesus: Check; (2) Mega-anything = mega-bad: Check. I have no use for Macarthur but the info on your links is bogus. Coy is a big boy and knew full well what he was doing, he got caught and now its time to pay the piper. You declined. repentance REPENTANCE, n. 1. Grace indeed but the truth needs to come out. Andy, Lets try this show me 2 things; 1.) Sheesh, somebody tell that Alex guy to re-open comments. 10:13) Every man needs accountability. Would the owner of this blog if he was a Christian be relishing and rejoicing in the fall of a Christian pastor, if he was a Christian? The woman got away without a scratch. He has been the father and leader of a house. "We need to stop him. Was it a dragon or a serpent? Adultery is a common thread throughout the 66 books. Police said they couldn't find enough evidence to press charges, but the staffer claimed the church forced him to resign for alerting the authorities. Youre going to find many branches of the faith represented here which adds to the richness of what takes place here. Now how a man can be considered a great Bible expositor when he teaches that its OK to take the Mark? I think it is worth reading. Yes or no. Diamond donny, theres a lot of truth in all that. come now and get real it is plain as day, that if you really read the Bible with all your heart you would know that the mark of the beast is a bar code stamped on your forehead. That is why Mark Davis & Clay heacocks leftthey saw this stuff and said enough is enough!. Thank God we are saved by grace through faith, I understand, my apologies once more to the forum and MLD, how each one wants to handle their feelings in this situation whether with condemnation or mercy is between them and God! Michael- The attacks you are receiving remind me of the attacks I got when I was at that church attempting to do good. Jesus loves him and his family very much. Read some of the reports from that nightits all over the place in reputable sources. Ironic that having 2 parts of a supposed godhead personally active in ones life isnt enough protection from seductive women. Some of these churches/groups that are so antithetical to anything that could possibly be considered ecumenical may in fact be unable to discern wheat from chaff. Just saying. Thats getting copied and pasted and saved to be used a lot in the future . So, the next time she walks by, dont give a 2nd glance. I like Bob, I served there for over a decade and he has proclaimed from the pulpit he struggles in the area of pride and women. he could always go back to Vegas as a comedy act. 2. I love my husband and I dont want to be divorced, but when things have been unhappy between us, I have had to literally run away from sin because I was tempted to allow someone else to give me emotional support that should have come from my own husband, but wasnt at the time. Thank you for the many years you have pastored Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, through your words and Gods grace my husband got saved. Daughter- Interesting because I understood that BC did not write his own sermons. Their congregation consists of approximately 20,000 members. Lets wait and see how many he harassed and pressured. No, there are 2 parts to this Gods and mans. Something about sitting behind a computer screen can change and embolden us to post things we might not say to a persons face. Show me one person who has not or does not. The Peter comparison is not unreasonable. The Bible says, let he who is without sin cast the first stone! MLD, your Acts 2 interpretation is from Luther. But just as a reminder, within that 2000 years is some good, and some very bad. Make a one-time donation today for as little as $1. Jesus really dropped the ball. He didnt go after anyone who left. These are well documented facts. How can you trust anyone at calvary anymore after you were lied to by Coy for years.he is disgusting.. To say he was loyal to diane is a joke..his kids will really be affected for ever.. Did he ever once think about his 1000 employees, did he ever once think about his kids, did he ever once think about what he was doing to Jesus or his wife, his family. Seven is the perfect number: a week of years: a complete revolution of time accompanying a complete revolution in his state of mind. Jamieson, Fausset & Brown. Revelation is mixed with both things fulfilled and things unfolding. Bakker was a victim of his own beliefs. Try and keep up:). As it is biblical to do so. This brother is as Gay as a Goose! It looks like the CC movement is quickly passing. A day with DC having make-up applied by a makeup artist. If one sticks around for awhile, those friendships and identities will develop. In 1988, Coddington founded Boyd's Wheels, Inc. to manufacture and market his custom billet wheels. Martin Luthers Disciple says: So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. The next level of givers got to have a dinner with them with more people, the next level got a buffet dinner> The next got a lunch buffet and then some got nothing.. So yes we still sin after salvation as our flesh and spirit do battle and will continue to do so until the day we die. Ive experienced firsthand how these women throw themselves at him and its disgusting.. The last thing we need to do is turn on each other over this because first, There is nothing new under the sun Second, we have a whole unbelieving world out there that will be looking for an explanation and answers and we are focused on discrediting each other and being right??? True confession accepts 100% of the blame. Coy shocked his flock and made national headlines by walking away from his ministry, selling his house, and divorcing his wife. BTW, Flynn, that might prove 3 1/2 years of tribulation, not 7. who have been chosen ACCORDING TO THE FOREKNOWLEDGE OF GOD THE FATHER, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. Instead of just cowardly putting it on a message board to a bunch of strangers. The church has 10 campuses around Florida and has hosted numerous evangelical speakers, including evangelist Billy Graham, author and speaker Joni Eareckson Tada and actor Kirk Cameron. Youre just twisting Acts 2 in the same way. photos: Screencap via Youtube/Google Street View, The club has now terminated its relationship with Coy, toured the nation on Evangelical radio and TV shows. Daughter, We live in Coral Springs and have attended some of the more conservative churches in the area Reformed Baptist, Anabaptist and a John Macarthur affiliated church. Its not slander to point out severe doctrinal errors. That lent itself to a very youthful, crazy, wild lifestyle. His gray goatee is neatly trimmed, and he wears a light-blue plaid shirt and expensive jeans. The subject was brought up suggesting that church and Flynn was correct in most of his post which addressed those issue. Michael continues to be a blogger fail, spreading innacurate information, in hopes of being a journalist/blogger while these comments help sell him ads and he continues to beg for money via paypal on here. Something really big is going to come out soon. Accountability measures and shared power help mitigate both temptation and abusesin government and religion. If I had to choose between a repentant Bob Coy or even a Moses model pastor teaching correct doctrine or someone who is morally correct under a board that makes the decisions for the church, and yet teaching false doctrine like that Jesus only died for the Christians and not for the whole world, that there is no free will involved in salvation, when the Bible continually tells us that there is, and when part of their foundation is replacement theology, that is, that the church has replaced Israel and that the tribulation has already happened, then give me the Moses model pastor, sometimes and in many cases we have to choose the lesser of the two evils, as Jesus said, The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; 3therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them. He didnt say stop hearing them.
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