We see the same thing in our test facility. We believe the answer to Evnrolls surprisingly strong showing lies in its grooves. This is my favorite golf site and Tony is my favorite author on here. Ok I heard about the New Evn roll putter and stopped in to check it out today, Jamie helped me and was very knowledgeable and helpful regarding putters ended up getting the ER 1 putter. Had a putter fitting 2 months ago, had the Er2 on my hand. Tried to go to their website, but get an error any idea how to contact them? Thats ridiculous. Today, we review the Inesis High MOI Putter. C $253.55. Ive read thru all the positive and negative comments but I will have to say that a very similar design on the face of my Heavy putter does in fact improve performance. The TR groove story isnt about getting the ball rolling quickly, its about creating a consistent roll on every strike. The evolution of Evnroll requires a return to a cohesive, unifying, identity. I use p770 irons & g400 driver because of this website. Fantastic testing, thanks so much MSG, you guys are the best. In touch with them already ? BUT WHY????? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Learn how your comment data is processed. Took at least 9 holes to get used to the distance control. Have a great weekend. Product Information. When we look at the number of putts per hole, and SG18, Evnroll putters filled the top 5, besting both of 2016s Most Wanted Putters. email subject line Now if I could just find someone around here who HAS Guerin putters. In the store I was testing an Odyssey and a Scotty, 200 vs 400 in price. Patented. So which is itrobots good, or robots bad? And most golfers need the most help for those distances. I absolutely love my evnroll. You would think most of the curvature back toward center occurs in the first foot or 2 followed by a somewhat straight ball, but there has to be some influence to the side as well. Is Scotty Cameron in Trouble?! Product information Technical Details Additional Information Feedback Would you like to tell us about a lower price? That will impart an initial spin that is angled slightly towards the center of the face, which will result in off center hits spinning slightly back towards the hole (like a motorcycle tire needing to tilt to turn). One of the most solid rolls ever. Where and when will these be available in the UK? Secondly, some indication of the handicapps of each of the testers would have also been useful. I was very intrigued as well. Theyre available at PGA Tour Superstore. "Isn't it funny? So for this example they are a great display of how this technology works and why it is so effective. Im confused MGS. Since their website is down and they are working hard on getting it back up, here is a link to their Instagram site so you can start getting some ideas of the product and their technology. Get one. Not only did Evnrolltechnology outperform the best putter we have ever tested at MyGolfSpy, the data shows that the Evnroll technology outperformed it across each of the 4 models we tested. Felt like I could take my hands off it and it'd still work. I paid $99 plus tax. Also, Ill never understand how only a test with only 10 participants is acceptable these days. The Modern Classics: Testing Ping's G400 LST from 2017 NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! I bought the ER2 the first day it was available (came across it by accident). Unreal roll they put on the ball, Too bad a company looking to revolutionize putters doesnt offer lefties. 1. If you think it through, the phenomenon makes sense. Conversely, for Evnroll, its an either-or proposition. It beat out a Ping Sigma Tyne and Scotty Future 5. For Evnroll, that putter is the ER2. At least as far as I know. Did you see the video of robot testing? I am unclear as to the point you are trying to make with that statement. I can tell you that this putter flat out performs. The mention of Cameron is more so to illustrate a key difference between Evnroll and a much larger operation. I could possibly buy the criticism that pros mishit the putter less often than amateurs..but no one hits the dead-nuts center of the face every time. Still amazes me the power of marketing. Their phone number is (760) 448-6450, Where will they be available and how much. Were a brand for putter nerds, asserts Rife. You cant tell me its too difficult to have 100 users for the test, it simply just takes longer. It takes aerodynamically produced forces to make a golf ball curve. If Rife is making putters, an Evnroll ER2 will be in the line. Partners . If it doesnt work for you then, feel free to walk off the edge of the earth. Just got fit for an ER5 and love it! I removed the original grip-weighted shaft and replaced it with a conventional shaft and grip which gives it a nice heavy head feel (400 g mid-weight head face-balanced ) which translates to a smoother stroke instead of a hit! A plain-face putter (one w/o grooves) doesnt make the ball come off the face at an angle just because the contact point is not at the center of the face, at the so-called sweet spot. I removed the grip to put the larger Evnroll grip on it and realized that there was a counter-balance weight in the end of shaft. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Hmmmmm I have a Scotty Cameron Studio 1.5 and love it. I kept hearing it but nowhere did it say how or why it happened but your explanation makes total sense. I have been interested in trying out the CR5CS with the Gravity Grip but I never see anyone having one in stock. The Bettinardi Kuchar 35 model has this sweetness as did the original black cameron Golo from 6 years ago. After that my putter didn't work for my new stroke, so I went from the old 35" mallet to a 33" blade. Theoretically the robot testing should remove any doubt, right? It would be like asking Alice Cooper to sing some nursery rhymes. Great putters but have decided to evolve their product line in only right hand. What a world we now live in! I bought the ER2 on eBay for $279am waiting for delivery..I have complete trust in the testers on this site as Ive not been steered in the wrong direction yet. The performance has carried over to the course and practice green. But after a technology is proven it also had to work with the multiple ways a golfer will use that particular putter (stroke type, etc.). But Ive been bound to secrecy. Who can argue with the ball going in the hole. Videos Ill bit I want one. www.odysseygolf.com | Toe hang: Moderate | Average skid distance: 21.7 inches | Average topspin: 31.91rpm. Put differently, Evnroll established itself first with gearheads and consumers who held performance as the only worthy metric. A putter that fits you well, that feels right will allow you to deliver more consistent contact more often, whatever the geometry of your swing, to start the ball on the intended line. Great heft and stability, easy to start the ball on target. In the end the only thing that really matters is squaring up the face while having the proper aim point and speed. (Unless it includes ice cream and Dr. Pepper. The other limitation is that it might take Evnroll several years to bring a new design to market. Not exactly compelling data. The ball comes off the face so well in comparison that it goes quite fast when I give it a bit bigger swing. Sometimes acoustics in a room can vary impression. I have never read testing or seen comparising made with Bobby Grace putters on your website. And none of this has anything to do with putting. Rather or not you believe in the technology, Ive never hit a putter better than this thing. Not an oversized grip fan so that was an adjustment. Having gamed several Rifes in the past, my opinion is that grooves do put a smoother roll on the ball, and Rife himself has an eye for a clean design (even if the shapes are highly derivative/copies). Over and over again?? How often are you all shanking your putter? At the end of the day I just couldnt deal with the blocky knock feel off every roll. I have the ER2 and the ER5- both are murdered out and my ER2 has a Tour Stability Shaft. We certainly suggest you try an Evnroll for yourself. There is no gear effect in the interaction of the face of the putter and the ball because the club head does not rotate as a result of an offset between the contact point on the club face and the position of the center of mass. Brief content visible, double tap to read full content. As a result, Rife reshuffled several vendors, altered a couple of processes and believes his brand is in a better position now than in 2020. If he truly has improved on those grooves, then this putter will perform. THAT would be the putter to beat all putters! I see from the data it says Guerin Evnroll, does he not make Guerin putters anymore? Sincerely, Guerin Rife has been around a long time and the Evnroll putter does exactly what it claims and looks great doing it. Display as a link instead, At least their design and innovative skills are better than their website skills. as well as honest reporting on the latest issues affecting the game Testing them myself and yes they are. Why not? Kinda feel like wood or as if i was stroking the putt with a wrench or something non-putter. We damage our credibility by telling you what we observed in our testing? To make a ball curve, without the effect of gravity, can only be produced with aero force. Evnroll ER2B MidBlade Putter A center-shafted shorter, wider heel and toe weighted flange blade. I would love to believe that a putter costing $350 dollars would actually produce the skill it would take to reduce the number of putts, to warrant such a price. Though this provided a measure of validation, some designs proved to be too similar which is why you dont see them on the market any longer. I suspect wed get along swimmingly in real life. Each feature has a purpose that ultimately supports better performance without compromising the aesthetic. Also, I was able to try 2 of these models yesterday and can say the one thing I came away with is they felt very weak off the face. Interesting that the Ketsch still did better at 20 feet. George Low Wizard. I am sure I can sort this out quickly with a bit of practice. ER2 - Evnroll US ER 2 Rated 4.94 out of 5 based on 87 customer ratings 87 A shorter, wider heel and toe weighted flange blade. What ive found is that on greens with very slick surfaces, over 5 feet, Im much more consistent and putt way better with the odyssey as it slows the ball coming of the face so that even if I miss the longer putt it doesnt go as far. Also paid $99 plus tax. There are, however, rare products that almost the day they are released seem to forever change the path of how golf is played. 2. Im still in maybe $130 for a putter Id put up against the big names. If you are using a good ball like a Pro V or Taylomade TP the feel is very soft without being mushy. Gravity has nothing to do with it as its on a hard surface ??? Jack, skepticism is a critical trait in the scientific community. MyGolfSpy referred traffic crashes yet another website lol. Why not left handed??? Im the best putter in my regular foursome (9.2 index) and the other 3 guys all game Scottys. Using a putter whose combination of mass, length, and other physical characteristics suits your swing is the most important first step in putting well. ER2 feels better and is more pleasing to my eye. And I think most resort courses will tell you that they keep the greens slower because the average golfer cannot putt well on fast surfaces and rounds are much slower because of more 4 putts, or more versus the slower speeds. Ive been playing golf for 20+ years, Im 26, and play to a +2 right now at a course with very difficult greens. I bet the people at Ping and Odyssey wont be too far behind with bringing out something similar to match it if they can. Distance control was very uniform as advertised but being on a flat, indoor surface it is hard to know if the accuracy is significantly better than my current putter. The first four putters were 20 years in the making. Guerin Rife. We are here to help educate and empower golfers. Evnroll ER2 Black 5 899 kr. I suspect its quite possibly because the team saw some great results and got excited. This could be the best putter of all time but no one will pay 329 for it. Bought the ER6 at our local PGA Superstore last week, took it out straight away and won the member guest at my club! So the green speed can dramatically change the tests and comparisons. So I must say I was hasty in my review above regarding the feel being off. Sure seems like you answer your own question. I have a Mezz.1 prototype, number 33 of the first 100. Pasted as rich text. I wouldnt worry about absolute value for that reason, but rather, where the score sits relative to the rest. I was putting with a Spider . Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide . What a bunch of trolls. Not sure why more people arent rolling these putters, George low wizard Jack Nicklaus used model. Full disclosure I bought an Evnroll 6 (Im a mallet guy) last week and have played 2 rounds so far with limited practice. If most sales come from a handful of designs, what about the others? I stroked the ER1 and ER2. Age 66, handicap at 1.4 and I think this is the very best putter I have ever used. I have an ER-6R and an ER2. Spin a bowling ball and it curves. They are at PGA Tour Superstores Currently. Do you have any time-lapse photos taking during your testing of this putter than can show your readers that in fact this putter produces gear effect related curvature of the golf ball? If this thing is that good cmon MGS guys and hook us up . Why not save this article for April 1? I played it about a year until I discovered the SL7, I love this putter, it has great feel to it (I did add the heavier weights to the bottom). For a putter they do a great job of showing dispersion on off-center hits. Cameron enjoys the benefits of economies of scale. 2 times I was more than 20 foot away and both times I over-hit the puts considerably. Your mis hits are better and it truly rolls the ball better than anything else. Thats it. problem is you still have to putt with it and that is where the rubber meets the road regarding how a product performs. Its not only the individual putter but the visual message it presents stacked alongside 15 or 20 putters of the same brand. What forces are in play that are making the ball curve? You can post now and register later. What we knew then was that Rife was on to something with his Sweet Face Technology. I then got the chance to use it for the first time yesterday in a round. Ive found putter prices and performance have no direct correlation. The brushed finish and the subtle aiming dots look great. Spin, not gravity. Glad your investment is more of a concern than your putting to lower your golf score? This leads me to believe that they would be great putters for fast greens, but would take a lot of getting used to on slow greens. Golfers who want to score better should consider Evnroll putters for one reason: Performance. I have the ER6 and yes, I know I have to hit the ball a bit harder. I replaced it with the ER2 on a whim just to try it and boom, it stayed in the bag. By raskal21, March 26, 2020 in Putters Followers Reply to this topic Start new topic raskal21 Advanced Members 795 Feedback 86 0 0 Total Rating 100% Did you say the both you and your testers saw the putter make the ball actually curve back toward the hole when mishit? Been in the bag for 5 years., and nothing has come close to making me what to bench it the Scotty X5 can get off the bench. Any golfer without this in their bag after today is, playing inferior technology. Lucky for you, one does. But if the ER 1 helps knock off a few strokes as they say drive for show putt for dough. Six years ago, Evnroll compelled golfers to consider the limits of how a putter could impact both the speed and direction of every putt. No future? Hi Mick, I called them earlier to order a putter. . All Hype, no substance! email them, i bought a lefty from them last monthlove it. Then I tried and feel in love with the Rife Switchback XL. Wilson Staff Model Irons 6-PW offers and trades welcome, Vokey SM8 52*/56*/60* SOLD, New Ping blade putter headcover, New Ping hat. Is someone on the payroll of Evnroll? This time I brought in 2 ProV1x golf balls and was shocked how much more I liked this putter when not using the TopFlite balls scattered on the practice green. 360-370 grams take all touch and feel out of putting. Only a matter of time before everyone starts doing it. [texts-excerpt] multiplying imaginary numbers with square roots calculatorFREE EstimateFREE Estimate I bought an ER1 and its the best money I have ever spent. Also, how much does the force of the stroke affect the amount of correction? That is the best description of how the gearing works. Just like PXG and theyve been out of business for two years. Once they try it they will see for themselves. Evnroll ER5v MidLock . That is a great use for putter robot testing. If the face is shut and you hit the ball in the center of the face, you are going to miss the putt left (assuming you are aiming correctly). I know its industry standard to have 10-20 people in these type of tests. Has anyone tried the Pyramid Putter? I hit enough putts that my friends frequently ask to try it. Rifes game is grooves on a milled metal face. I know this isnt a Ping thread, but Im definitely disappointed. Imagine using a robot to perfectly test straight strike vs 1/4 miss to left/right vs 1/2 miss to left/right and comparing the numbers. Were they all 10-20 handicap or more, or mostly under 10 handicap. Free shipping for many products! If you hit the put with a closed face to the right of center, wouldnt it make the ball spin even further left? Im not sure what they are arguing about here. We have contacted them and let them know. Results matter. As long as the face is square to the swing path at contact the ball will come off the face on a path that is perpendicular to the face. Your previous content has been restored. Of course, choosing the right line, and speed, is a matter of reading the green, which is a skill which comes only with practicelots and lots of practice. satin black Length/loft/lie adjustments * Then I remember, Im a nerd. For me a light putter has no feel to it at all, the heavier putter requires more touch to roll a ball the right distance on different speed greens and different slopes. Thats it. Odyssey putter covers - 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open LA Golf "Bel-Air" prototype putter - 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open Bettinardi "Party On!" headcovers - 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open Learn how your comment data is processed. Nike Golf to Focus Exclusively on Apparel and Footwear. I started making putts. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Claims are just that, claims. whereas the technology should help more, the longer the distance (due to geometrical reasons) We would love to have you to our facility, this way you can see the test for yourself. Odyssey etc. Practically, this means the brand will feature a single black-and-white color scheme that includes the grip and head cover. Being a weekend hacker with my old putter at least a few times a round I would get this wrong enough that I would leave it too far away and miss the next put at least once. I have two putters that I use a lot, an odyssey and a PING TR cadence. http://instagram.com/evnroll. My putting average per round is still the same so I dont think Im getting much from the putter, lol! Already made my $359 back and more! Gravity is from up to down, not sideways. Thus, Evnrolls tagline, Nothing Rolls Like an Evnroll. Its a sentiment similar to Mizunos Nothing Feels Like A Mizuno catchphrase or my personal favorite, Nobody out pizzas the Hut. The point is that owning and leveraging a unique piece of real estate, in any market, is vital and really freaking difficult. + C $57.64 shipping. I LOVED it. In this case, were talking about putters, specifically Evnroll putters, and the man behind it all, Guerin Rife. Does anyone have a discount code for ordering online? I know Odyssey is the #1 Putter on Every Tour but Scotty Cameron is still the #1 brand to which every other milled putter is compared.. No lefty option for us. This is where Rife believes he further separates himself from competitors. Then you say its the higher ranked putter because of its SG18 of 1.51, but in your 2015 most wanted putter overall winner you show the Ping Cadence at SG18 = 2.07. In golf, there is evolutionary technology and revolutionary. Odyssey DFX Double Wide 1 499 kr. It would also violate the laws of physics. Just want to say that my dealings is not the same models that you are mentioning. What is important for people to know is that the Gearing only works if you connect with the ball on an off center hit WITH a square face. I judge a clubs performance by the balls performance it gives. At least that is how it seems to me. The performance was pretty much identical but I took the Scotty. Which is the type of putter I play. Wouldnt a harder stroke introduce more error in to the putting stroke? Hahahaha even my girlfriend is getting jealous at the affection I show for this thing. ALL of your HOPES and DREAMS behind this click: Scotty, Tri-HOT, Taylor Made SIM Galore, Fuji Pro, Callaway Heads - Rogue ST TD LS 10.5/Max 3HL/Max 7W. I hope Evnroll comes up with designs that have variable head weights minimum 335 or even less head weight up to say 375 gram head weights. The truth just sounds different.". So robot good for a couple things, robot not so good for finding the overall performance of a product in real golfers hands. What if we told you that we saw itmake balls actually curve back towards the hole when mishit. I have owned my Evnroll Er6 for a couple months now and I can tell you that it is the best putter I have used. $359.00 satin black Hosel Length Yes No HmmmThis just sounds too good to be true. It sounds great, doesnt it? Wouldnt it make sense to try this instead of always spending $$$ on Camerons? How was this observed? My answer would be for now. Lets check it out. It has helped me big time. Keep up the great research guys!! So happy with the performance. People regularly spend more for putters that do less for them. Take a green speed of 12-13 versus one of 7.5 and one can notice a significant difference in the results of the putts. Personally..most putters IMO are overpriced for what you get.. today. How does the putter know where the target is? And its amazing that no one has thought of it before. Have been playing golf for about 55 years. As others have mentioned no lefty options? $329I dont think so. It had the small Evnroll grip on it. Its quality thru and thru. high . If you play on the local muni or other "Value" public courses with slow greens it takes a lot of effort to hit lag putts outside of 50'. Refine and evolve. Thats Rifes mindset as Evnroll seeks to broach the smedium company size category. Its quite an expensive putter so was not keen to purchase online without having used it. The roll is true. Have you actually used one of these putters? If it supposedly turns the ball in towards the hole due to gear effect then it really should have shined at the longer distances because as the distances increase, the impact of minor mishits increases significantly. Call it a head-to-head test against only the best. The one cool thing about the ER3 is that off-center hits is that it does kind of bring the ball back towards the hole. Case in point: Evnroll Midlock. Best putter Ive ever owned. You might want to stop and re-read that last sentence. They can argue semantics all they want, but there are simple robot test results showing the effectiveness of this design like you have shown. Is there a plan to? I have a murdered out ER2. It rolls straight and stays on line. Sorry MGS, no gear effect to be seen on these videos. Im really looking forward to trying these out and Im sure the slight finish behind Ketsch from 20 feet will probably not even be noticeable (maybe one stroke in 20 rounds?) Well, that is exactly what our testers saw over and over again in our lab. Head to head! Cons Definite feel difference.. It is possible if different spits on the putter face impart different forces on the ball because of the faces design. Not yet tested it myself just repeating what others say. Im not asserting that Evnroll will overtake Cameron or even nibble off a sizeable portion of the latters market share. Ive been playing since the mid-1970s. Thanks for the link. Lastly,, perhaps their own zero- torque shaft (Stability)) that is optimized for their head designs. Amazing feel Although, that may be changing with Dustin Johnson switching to a mallet and winning immediately. So I bought the the Odyssey Tuolon instead which gives me lots of control on the rolls.
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