The late Bill Ruger got interested and set his people to work. Not question those who do or did so, cause theres something special about shooting a lever action. I make do with a 336 Marlin in .35 Rem. Some of the smaller single-action companies produced their version. That never happened with Ruger. and especially their 180 gr. You can find ammo, and buy it if you can afford it. It was even out of warranty and they took care of it no charge. They seem to have gotten a lot better in the last 5 years ago or so. The youngsters love shooting it with .38 spl. One, intended as a super revolver cartridge, failed to make the grade in firearms with cylinders but is a fine performer in other platforms. While many manufacturers produce copper jacketed or semi-jacketed bullets, as well as spire point for better accuracy at longer ranges, you can cast your own bullets to load this caliber. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. First and foremost is that all the straight-walled cartridges in this article max out at somewhat close range. Going price was 399.they didnt have any..but said they had a 45 Long Colt at a discount 299easy decision. The fact that they are very difficult to find, new or used, is a testament of that they are still relative and in high demand. The MAGnum case with the bullet seated out holds exactly the same charge weights as factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! I might have to take that to the range next time and see what happens. Ive chosen to go with a strategy that includes both firearms that the SASS folks find fascinating and others that cause the antis to have bowel control problems you can cover a lot of bases for just a couple thousand dollars. . I take the time to dial in bores, do all throating separately forthe best co-axial alignment of the throat with the bore, and cut a few tenths of a thousandth tighter throat. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:49 pm, Post But muh tactical! you say? Having fired several different types and CARRIED them in the Military, I much prefer the simple and traditional bolt-actions, levers and semi-autos that American hunters have carried for generations. allows seating bullets out to create the same case capacity as the published "revolver spec" .357 Maximum loads that have all the bullet shank stuffed into the case, duplicate .350 Legend powder charge weights that should give the same or better ballistics as factory .350 Legend ammo, and. by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Prefer .44 Mag to .357, but thats just me. From what I hear the Henry trigger is better though. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. Yes, tactical Virginia, you can put a red dot on a lever gun. It was too intense and very finicky. A heavily worn gun that had been drilled vertically thru the buttstock, the barrel, magazine tube and lag-bolted across beams in the ceiling of some bar in northern Arizona. but I can welcome You to the forum. by AJMD429 Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 pm, Post RETURN POLICY: Intrepid Shooting Sports will accept returns on firearms that arrive other than advertised in the listing. My stance is that Lever action rifles are still very relevant in 2020, for all the reasons that people have stated. 357 Magnum Rifle M.V. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on July 21, 2015: I had the opportunity to fire a colleague's .357 Max "Contender" and he worked with my .41 Magnum. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? SAAMI maximum is 48,000, and in the closed breech guns pressures can be run at the same levels as 5.56 NATO, about 54,000 psi. Long throated .357 MAGnum barrels let you create space in the MAGnum case for the same powder charge rates used in factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! In this policy, they created a market for a more powerful revolver. The Hodgdon site gives loads for bullets from 110 gr. Loads for .357 Maximum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start.) . Personally I like Blue Dot, and Bullseye for plinking rounds. I would think the old school lever lovers and the black rifle guys could come together on this. Hornady XTP 158 gr. 05-25-2020 . I doubt nothing that Taffin says, but we both know that no gun maker will ever live with that kind of visible damage.But let's step back and look at what the .357 Maximum was designed to do. I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. I am sure I am not the only one that is open to it but finds that it is not possible right now. Couldnt seem to understand that I couldnt and didnt care to at this moment. And of course my Marlin comes back today from the warranty repair and they still havent fixed the main issue I sent it in for. I think it helps ballistic uniformity in this long, skinny case and slow propellants. It shouts very well that way. Henry is finally putting out some side loading gate models, while still retaining the muzzle end magazine tube, so as to make them easier and safer to unload. 357 Remington Maximum Load Data Extremely fun to shoot makes them relevant. Browning should build a plant in Utah and make them there, as they own the rights to Winchester now. Of course, you can also get the original Winchester carbine, the Winchester 1873. Buy .357 Maximum SuperMag 180g Hornady XTP HP 1800 FPS 20 rounds: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pistol Ammunition Ammunition All: 972984640. . The 357 max is all that plus a bit of more power available. If you can't locate a H&R/NEF in 357 mag a very decent alternative is a Braztech/Rossi made scaled down clone. And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. The one that went directly back to gun store was likely 2018 or 2019 but was still new in box. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. A max charge of 27.0 grains posted roughly 1,875 fps with the Speer 180-grain .35 Remington bullet and shot under 1 MOA in my 14-inch Contender. barrel and (2) additional 12rd magazines. Marlin changed the sliding top strap to a sliding sidewall, therefore making the rifle side-ejecting. The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. As a reloader, I will say that I have affection for the ease of use/reuse of straight walled cartridges and, thus, am a bit more fond of 10mm but, .357 sig certainly has merit. It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. At least try it with used reloading equipment, one or or two sets of dies. Get one batch of 360 brass from Starline for ammo to be loaded hot. Ive shot the .30-30, and its fine, but man, Id love that thing in .357. Who needs a semi auto rifle. Yeah, that .357 lever gun is so irrelevant you cant find one anywhere. So without further adiou "Welcome". With the added velocity and muzzle energy, along with the fact that JHP rounds are easily available from any gun store, whereas frangible or JHP rounds for an AR-pattern rifle are harder to source, it makes one of the best home defense long guns possible. The easiest way to get a long gun in .357 Max is in a Handi Rifle and there is plenty written about them in the Max. Email Mike at mike@357maximum.net or call 541 956 6938. Bullets manufactured by Hornady. They were hell bent on making me reload. tend to do quite well in the .357 Maximum. Perfect for those states with straight wall case limits and/or overall cartridge case length limits where in most cases the .45 cal. The .357 Maximum is a stretched .357 Magnum case; its about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. I own lots of guns..I just like a lever rifle best for fun and utility. While Ive never loaded brass I have loaded shotshells on a card table in the living room with a mec 650. How do the modern .357 loads compare to the first repeaters? Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Thompson center contender barrel, 357 max, 21" blued at the best online prices at eBay! Turned out to be a skunk right underneath my stand. .357 Remington Maximum beats many of the traditional factory loaded "deer cartridges" such as .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington. The company would sell you all you wanted for ten bucks apiece, but a gun that tried to cut itself in half was doomed to failure. SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, Casting Your Own Bullets for Lever-Action Rifles, The Staying Power of the .257 Roberts Cartridge, 10mm Firepower: Springfield XD-M Elite 3.8 Compact Pistol Review, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now, A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Great for when wearing gloves. Buy in stock Contender and Encore barrels for immediate shipment or have them custom build your barrel in 4-6 weeks! Despite the fact there is little commercial production for the .357 Remington maximum, the cartridge is well liked by hunters who understand the velocities, energy, and recoil it produces makes for a very efficient and manageable cartridge. Gun shows are your salvation. The .450 will really put a wallop on your shoulder. You can also get your lever action fix without breaking the bank on ammunition .357 Remington is cheaper than .30-30 and without breaking your shoulder, as a .45-70 will make you black rifle boys soil yourselves and cry for your mommas. 38 wad cutters and 357 mag, I have a 357 maximum but I dont reload can I buy a box. 1. Can we get some more ideas? I would accept the beating and get a .44 if I did. Somewhere around 7,500 guns were made. 008-E503841 | MTM. The .357 Maximum is a "stretched" .357 Magnum case; it's about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. Henry Big Boy All-Weather Rifle 10 RD 357 Magnum 38 Spl 10 . The 357 Magnum is a highly regarded round for hunting and self-defense. Colt - Python, .357 Magnum. In the meantime, be sure to sign the Recall. The Lil Gun and AA1680 are max loads from my searching tho I've seen several claim you can't get enough AA1680 in the case to overload it. Some additional info on Fury Bullets, Detroit, MI. Bingo. There have been discussions in the past about the comparison between the .357 Magnum and the .30 Carbine cartridges. The round barrel is just 17.4 inches, threaded for a suppressor and features a 1:16 rate of twist. Max. Thirdly, in ordinary political/economic times .38 and .357 ammo is plentiful, ubiquitous, and affordable. by awp101 Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:23 pm, Post My findings are three of us used 357 mag out of 2 Rossi lever at 20 inch and one Marlin with 16.25 to hunt blacktails and elk. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:01 pm, Post You can also put ketchup on a hot dog, but you shouldnt. XTP bullet in a 357 mag. Extremely accurate, small groupsit reminds me why I got into shooting in the first place. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. Great rifle and never have had an issue, shooting with 8 grains of unique with 225 grn semi wadcutters. Was a great gun.I wish someone should resurrect it. Its fine. Jim Rhodes Greenville, Al. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. Location. by Hobie Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:59 am, Post The availability of molds ranging from 180 to 250 grains in both gascheck and plain-base bullets, reasonable recoil, rimmed for headspace, larger bullet to touch the next ring, there are advantages. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Ill just be here waiting on .357 lever guns to be relevant. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA. Moku Manu, Hawai'i. Jun 17, 2016. . Same 357 MAXIMUM 180 gr load in an 18" rifle barrel has a MP= 3111 psi vel 1663 FPS 357 Mag 158 gr 13 gr Win 296 1719 FPS 14" barrel MP= 2586 Should be Ev0-9 safe especially with a Triad Mount. I had a 30.30 then I decided to upgrade to a Optimize the potentials of the .357 MAGnum by long rethroating the factory chamber. It could even work for breech-seating. I have the Winchester 1892 pictured above. Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. by Rusty Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:22 pm, Post . (I bought a Glenfield 30A at a gunshow for $200 about 5 years ago. The object was to knock down all five targets in two minutes. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. Subscriber Services. Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. Get your barrels customized early for next season! I can even hunt with both in some neighboring states, and do. hollow points, you can aim dead on with it at 100 yds. Nobody shoots the .357 Max because no manufacturer chambers their firearms for it these days!" .30-30 is just a little unpleasant in it due to the light weight and stock. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. I had just enough time to look at a Winchester 92 in .357(did not like the large loop lever) and an italian copy of the 73. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. And if even a Henry is a little rich for your blood, Rossi makes perfectly serviceable pistol-caliber levers that retail in the mid-$500s. In 357 max 24" Douglas premium barrel 1in16 twist shoots 180 pointed flat point over 4227 with CCI 450 primer .7 inches at 100 don't have to worry about resale I'll keep this one. That all depends on the powder youre burning. Show Only with Pictures Surprised no one has mentioned Smith and Wesson 627 Performance Center 8 shot in 357. Pricey, but they take down to a package about 20 inches long without sacrificing accuracy and are very well made. on January 02, 2020: Recently had mcCullough arms Valley Grand, Al. Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close (r) range, inside about 150 yards. Im just fed up with the fact I spent over $1000 in gun and ammo to not be able to use it AND when it comes back from the shop it is dirty, not fixed, and has some cosmetic issues that werent there when I shipped it. . by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 pm, Post So naturally, I'm looking at different options and trying to figure out what has the longest range. Of commonly available rifles, 444 marlin seems to be near the top of the heap, ballistics wise. Model 29 and Marlin stainless 1894 in 44. Most 158-grain and lighter bullets usually lack the jacket thickness for use on big game in a Contender. When I lived in the mountains caretaking a state property, soon learned the first day of hunting season would see the deer herd moving onto the property, bedding down behind the residence and the snow plow shed. I passed up a .357 94 trapper several years ago it was a few $ more than I had on me and I couldnt get the seller to budge. The max lead . My main load was Winchester 357 Silvertips. Show Only Non-Guns. Most of all it shoots the same ammo as a number of revolvers I have and reload for. Firearms returned for any reason other than damage or undisclosed conditions will be subject to a 10% restocking fee. Ive been looking for a stainless 1894 in 44mag for years. My one friend was shooting 158jsp out of his as they shot very well. Id tend to agree with you. Since its a range toy for me, its never been a big enough issue for me to bump it to the top of the to-do list. Til inauguration day and beyond, demand will likely increase. One example would be the Savage Model 24 combination rifle/shotgun. There was enough space there for a scabbard with a .30-30 in it. Back in the day. Night and day in service and I didnt have to wait over a month. for a velocity of around 1836 fps. No one currently makes guns chambered in the cartridge.Looking back on the whole incident is very interesting, and there is much to be learned. Full rechamber to .357 MAXimum or .350 Legend for energy levels on par with .300 Savage or moderate .308 Winchester loads and a bonafide 250 yard rifle. If you want to shoot .357 Magnum and .38 Special ammo, just long throat the factory chamber! Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. version of the .375 supermag (1.61 in.) My current 357 carbine is a Marlin 94 from 1998. https://leeprecision.com/lee-loader-45-70-govt.html. Custom craftsmanship applied to streamlined CNC manufacturing processes. I shot 180 hardcast lead both from Buffalo Bore and HSM bear loads. Then you wont be caught short. Worried about scratching that brass? . The .357 Rem. And 9mm , 45 ACP, 40 S&W , 380 Auto and all the rest. I took photos and pointed out the issue but still didnt fix it. The hole in the barrel and tube could not be repaired but were near the ends, so he shortened and crowned the barrel, put in a new mag tube spring. by Griff Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:22 pm, Post I always assumed it was so you didnt lose your rifle when making a Sabre charge and hauling ass on your horse. A couple of people got that familiar look in their eyes and started plotting their next purchase right there. In 1983, the .357 Remington Maximum was released as a joint project between Ruger and Remington. Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. Mounted basic fixed sights on it. The Big Boy Steel Carbine is competing for the top of my wish list I really like the color case hardened version. Such a longer cartridge is a pipe dream until someone steps up and makes a longer revolver cylinder. Show Only Guns The 40-70 Sharps straight can be formed from 405 Winchester cases. I'm chasing accuracy not top speed. Hard to beat real world experience which is mainly what this site consists of. Finally needed cash and sold it to a collector of old west guns. The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. Admittingly I was single then but it was relaxing! It brings the 38+p up to mid-range 357 revolver ballistics (~1250). Most of the famous Hatfield-McCoy feud was fought with lever guns. Rifle Brass; Rifles; Specialty Long Range; Sub-Caliber Products (.17, .14, .12, & .10 caliber) Cartridge Board Displays; Shotgun ; Firearms; Featured Item.14 Ackley . Max. 317 1 Image (s) Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway Gun #: 945177475 Seller: Sportsmans Legacy GA Sales: 739 $1,750.00 Full Details 1 Image (s) ROSSI R-92 LEVER RIFLE .357 MAGNUM Gun #: 942851574 Seller: Alpha Omega Services LLC $948.60 Own Stock. Reloading is a good alternative if you can get the supplies, but from what I read things like primers are becoming harder to find as well. A friend has suggested my neophyte inquiry might find assistance here: C2N14 because life is not energetic enough. A hollow-point 357 magnum bullet combines maximum weight retention and terminal expansion to provide threat-stopping power . .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). marcJ (author) from Mid-MO on July 21, 2015: After becoming accustomed to the cartridge and it's range of uses, I too couldn't believe it never caught on commercially. It has always had a good trigger but now it has one of those Ive fired it about 50,000 times trigger jobs and is as smooth and sweet as any trigger Ive owned. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:43 pm, Post The Henry Big Boy Steel is a great option, too. The Winchester Model 1873 is an iconic rifle commonly referred to as "The Gun That Won the West.". I settled on Accurate 1680 propellant. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. Everyone asks if they can shoot MAGnums in the .357 MAXimum chamber; however, with the .3" long jump before the bullet even gets to the throat, you can't expect great accuracy. of AA-1680 give top velocities and energies for shots upwards of 250 yards or more with 180 gr bullets from 24 barrels. Working range would be 50-70 yards. CONDIT OUR STOCK NUMBER: 13212 CONDITION: NEW IN THE BOX MAKE/MODEL: ROSSI.R-92 ACTION: LEVER RIFLE CALIBER: .357 MAGNUM/.38 SPECIAL BARREL: 24", OCTAGON FINISH: DARK BRAZILIAN HARDWOO ***HARD TO FIND TACTICAL-LEVER .357*** Citadel Levtac-92 lever-action rifle in .357 Magnum. It downloads well, unlike H110/296. I might have read your post incorrectly but I live in occupied Ca and I have a Rossi 92 (1892 clone) and a Taurus 605 both in .38sp/.357. Guns Rifles Harrington Richardson Rifles HARRINGTON RICHARDSON . Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. $1,050.00 (Save up to 21%) Price $825.00 H012MAW Henry Arms Henry Mares Leg Lever Rifle 357 Magnum 38 Special 5 RD 12.9" $1,133.00 (Save up to 10%) Price $1024.00 H006MML Henry Arms Cimarron 1873 Short Lever Action Rifle .357 Magnum $1,498.00 (Save up to 10%) Price $1355.00 CA271 JWM, I too would love to have pairs of 357 and 44 mags. Features a rugged, stainless steel bolt with 90 bolt throw and rapid lock time for added accuracy.
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