Click here for more information. 2023 Rock Island Auction Company. The Model 12 2 pin rib has always been "KING" but don't turn you nose up @ a Dounut Post model 12 as production in Trap & Skeet model only lasted from late 1955 to 1956 then round post was alternate rib to the 2 pin. The new value of a WINCHESTER MODEL 12 shotgun has fallen ($937.31) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $484.80 . When I went to the university in a different town I worked for another gun shop that was an authorized Winchester Repair Center. rifle w/ Jaeger Quick Detachable scope mount 3 Remington mod. Franklin and his two sons John M. Olin and Spencer T. Olin were the managers of Olin Industries and Western Cartridge Company in 1931. Model 42s with donut post ribs, no Simmons markings, proof marks in the right places, in the proper serial number range, are considered to have been made to completion in the Winchester factory. Although the quality of the rib will be the same as the original Winchester, the only way a Simmons rib looks OK on a Model 12 is if they DON'T put their silly name down the side of the rib. Askins and Buckingham would sure be surprised at how far the 12 magnum has come. We limited our shooting to 25 yards or less and seldom missed. Buckingham recorded his adventures in some of the best hunting stories ever written. Mechanically excellent. We need to talk model 12's sometime. This gives a wrinkled appearance on bottom of pistol grip and bottom of forend. And you are not right about them becouse the model 12 evolved over time with improvements you didn't seem to catch becouse you are probable not a shooter. Not shown in the table of results are the dense centers of patterns obtained with #4 shot compared to # 8 and #2 shot. Chamber marked 2 3/4", choke marked full, and 14" LOP. WE DO NOT SHIP INTERNATIONALLY $40 Shipping. The deeply blued barrel and receiver frame are very good. Free shipping for many products! This is a 12 GA pump shotgun manufactured in 1950. Very Good example of a Model 12 26 inch poly choke with vent rib 12 ga. Other conditions: Phone 715-478-0404 within 48 hours to confirm payment, . This is why they were rust blued instead of hot blued. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Winchester Model 12 12 ga 26" oal aftermarket poly choke and vent rib at the best online prices at eBay! Stock has a Monte Carlo cheekpiece and European pistol grip with a right hand palm swell. Winchester Model 12 Skeet Gun 12 gauge with 25" Solid Rib Barrel - 12 GA: 0 5d 7h 6m 17240921. Rib Boat, Winchester Winchester Rifle Parts, 12 in Frame 12 in Wheel Electric Bikes, 12 Gauge Barrels, Youth Football Rib Protector . Ab steadies the boat. Askins stated in Modern Shotguns and Loads: All shotguns which are intended for long range work.should be patterned at 60 yards. Continuing, loads which pattern around 85% [at 40 yards] have that quality which will permit them to continue a pattern on down the range.Askins found that each yard of range beyond 40 yards reduced pattern density by an average of two percent. Buckingham is jump-shooting with his big double gun. Ernie special order model 12's from Winchester to add his Dounut Vent Rib. The Winchester Model 1912 (also commonly known as the Model 12, or M12) is an internal-hammer pump-action shotgun with an external tube magazine. At a reasenable Price, you can have that gun you allways wanted without all this drama. His Super Fox 12 gauge magnum double averaged 83.7% (two-barrel average) of 1 3/8ounces of shot under the same conditions. Initially came a series of auto-loading rifles, including the rimfire Model 1903 and centerfire rifles, culminating with the Model 1910, chambered for the 401 WSL cartridge. Charles Askins was the leading expert on shotguns in the first half of the last century. There are Simmons marketed guns with proper Winchester proof marks. Winchester Model 12 Pigeon 28 Gauge Single Family Owned Since 1967, Vent. Also, it was the only 1 3/8-ounce magnum load available. SAME RECEIVER AS MODEL 12 BUT MAD, Guns Listing ID: 640773MAKE - WINCHESTERMODEL - 12FINISH - BLUEDBARREL - 28\"CALIBER - 12 GAUGECAPACITY - N/AGRIPS - WOODCONDITION - VERY GOODFEATURES - HYDRACOIL STOCK & MODIFIED BARREL, Winchester Model 1912 Nickel Steel 20 gauge EARLY Serial # Up for sale is a used Winchester Model 1912 Nickel Steel 20 ga, 2 3/4" chamber, 24" VR barrel stamped full but reads IM on a bra, Winchester - Model 12 Factory Try-Gun, 12ga. Manufactured in 1962. Blue is good showing wear on high spots. Askins Ithaca 10-gauge double with 2 7/8-inch chambers averaged 86.9% with 1 5/8-ounces of shot. Generally, a Simmons rib gun will bring a higher price than a plain barrel gun, and a lower price than a solid rib or Winchester vent rib gun, all other factors being equal. Including this gun, they found a total of 4 gun with a 1919 date. His shotguns were undoubtedly the best long-range duck guns he found in extensive testing. I RATE THE BLUING AT 98% AND THE WOOD AT 96+%. Optional dimensions for straight or pistol grip stocks, grip caps, front sights and recoil pads were also among early options. Winchester recognized the scarcity of ducks in their promotional advertisement of the new duck gun To Meet the New Wildfowling Conditions. I suspect most Model 12 duck guns bought before World War II were put to work on other game. I found some they didn't. This shotg, FOR SALE IS A VERY NICE VINTAGE WINCHESTER MODEL 12, 12GA GA SHOTGUN. . By 1955, the options were matted rib, ventilated rib, straight or pistol grip stock and buttstock and extension slide handle checkered. It looks like it is in very good shape. I am anxious to get it back from the engraver. Houze relates that for the Model 12 the Watrous report suggested improve the smoothness of the action as it is criticized for being rough. How this was to be accomplished is not related but closer hand-fitting and gauging of parts was likely. Now I have never been wrong about anything in my lifeLOLjust kidding, but the way I read it on the top of page 109JMHOThanks, WC. We join Buckingham in his ducking skiff as he is poled through the bayou by Ab, his black guide. Item . I included #2 shot because this size shot has always been my goose and turkey load in 3-inch shells. This percentage was disappointing compared to the 80% or better patterns obtained with other duck guns tested by the staff. Enthusiastic hunters bought the new repeater. Very good condition overall. I believe that Stadt's book is one of the few that actually states that Winchester did produce M42s with Winchester vent ribs. An offset proof mark will boost the value compared to an aftermarket rib. Possible the fore end has been either replaced or re done. Their attitude is summed up by Elmer Keith in Shotguns by Keith: the satisfaction of seeing big ducks crumple at long range and come down and bounce on the ground or splash high in the water is the cream of shotgun shooting., It is my view that the long-range duck-hunting cult was a legacy from the days of market hunting. Some late duck guns came with special order Hydro-Coil stocks, according to Madis. The Olins soon added to the attractiveness of the Model 12 duck gun by bringing out a new 1 5/8-ounce load for the 3-inch shell. your community AND if they have it in stock, you can pick your gun up The new Model 12 duck gun was introduced to long-range waterfowl hunters habituated to heavy double shotguns chambered for 3-inch shells. part of our network, we sell THEIR guns first whenever possible. Spend your time enjoying the gun you want, not getting frustrated with a complex website that makes gun buying hard. Action works perfectly. Simmons Gun Specialties rib has been added to barrel. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Rangemasters are here to answer all your questions about our products or process. I offer the following example from What Rarer Day in Buckinghams book De Shootinest Gentman and Other Tales published in 1934. Remington re-tooled from the M31 to the stamp, push and press 870 which sold for less than the M12. the store. Checkered stocks and extension slide handles were available as options on the standard grade throughout most of the duck guns production. That luck ran out following World War I when the arms industry declined and the management of Winchester was relinquished to outsiders. The less pronounced pistol grip-style buttstock of the original Model 12 was discontinued in late 1934 and is not found on duck guns. Interchangeable barrels (forend assembly) for 2 3/4-inch shells and choke of choice were special order. Model 12 was offered in several different styles: 1. Each fired target was turned over and a 30-inch cardboard disc placed to cover the maximum number for pellet holes. Experts can attest to the vast improvements they have found shooting with the Simmons Ventilated Rib. , Excellent Winchester Model 12 12 gauge Deluxe Skeet gun with factory issued Cutts Compensator. A milled rib Model 12 is a milled rib Model 12, but the terminology is used a bit loosely. Thanks for all the info,my Grandfather died when I was in 12th grade in 1971 and I now have his field grade Mod.12 and 9 others love them all.I also have my Great Grandfathers Mod.97. The history of Oliver F. Winchester (1810-1880) and his endeavors in the manufacturing of fire-arm sat Bridgeport and New Haven, Connecticut, is filled with circumstances that could have led to corporate failure. Standard markings, with matching numbers on the receiver and barrel. Severe drought conditions gripped the United States and Canada during the 1930s. I sold 41 model 12's and 21's at a gun auction in Wichita Kansas to accommodate the move. Get Guns.com offers and news!! Winchester Model 42 Slide Action Shotgun with Simmons Vent RibManufactured in 1952. DAC 1 1/2"&n, FRO YOUR VIEWING IS A EXCEPTIONALY NICE MODEL 12 IN 3' HEAVY DUCK. 30 Barrel. And our I hope this helps you out A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Item. Made in 1928, 12 Gauge, 28"" barrel. But it would be my guess that the wood has been refinished and the gun has been reblued. Built from 1912 to 1963. Whether you're looking for a truck gun, something for the bug out bag, or a do-anything firearm we have you covered. I pick them up through the interlacing covert, a bunch of suspicious mallards driving for safety. the shot gun is in very good condition , with a 28 in ventilated rib barrel with full choke. I always wondered what the royalty was to Simmons on the Winchester Special Ventilated Rib that they installed. I kept the ones that were dearer to me so now they live in safes and I hate the safes. Pictures are of the item listed. Alex, we don't have enough info to give you an informed opinion. My second blast bites off a dismayed climber. The silhouette provides a precise aiming point. Westerns copper-plated shot, introduced about 1925, extended shotgun range even further. Checkered semi-fancy walnut pistol grip stock with extended forearm and a solid Winchester recoil pad. Winchester Model 12 1940's gun. A lot of us will have to begin learning to hit long-range ducks. Sounds like an invitation to join the long-range duck hunting cult! Save my name and email to use for future comments. A 2pin vent rib lets the shooter sight under the bird and keep the bird in sight. I don't believe it has been fired. Model 12 duck guns could be ordered in pidgeon grade, featuring fancy wood and meticulous fitting and finish of parts. I know of a gun shop in Idaho that can take about any model 42 and put on round post ribs or solid ribs that are just like factory original with the proof marks. bolt act. Winchester Model 12 Takedown Slide Action Shotgun with Simmons Ventilated RibProduced in 1961. A smothered roar from around the corner! the barrel and chamber are bright and clean. FORE ARM HAS A PEICE OF WOOD MI, This is an all original 1962 made Winchester Model 12 in the harder to find 16 Gauge. Saint Charles, Missouri. He did note, however, that the rib first appeared at about serial number 240,000. Winchester advises Do not use steel shot in any Winchester shotgun with a fixed choke. Use tungsten polymer, tungsten matrix or bismuth shot for waterfowl hunting with your Model 12 duck gun. There are 16 pages of loads for various shell lengths, shot sizes (dust through buck, soft or chilled), five powders, five shell grades and 11 gauges. However, the gun for which Johnson is best remembered is his Model 12 pump-action shotgun, The Perfect Repeater.. Shooting the Model 12 Duck Gun I own two Model 12 duck guns. Harold Williamson, in his book Winchester, The Gun That Won the West, relates that the new management of Winchester embarked on a program that involved an extraordinary departure from the companys previous operations and the investment of borrowed capital in large amounts. Winchester struggled through a decade of inept product diversification that was terminated by the Great Depression. Something went wrong. The Model 12 duck gun came to market at the all-time low point of duck populations in the United States. Guns.com's selection won't leave you feeling unprepared. Winchester cautiously claimed 70 to 75% pattern in a 30 inch circle at 40 yards.. When I dress Western, nothing beats the classic good looks of my Smith & Wesson (S&W) 586 .357 revolver. The standard 12-gauge duck load in 1921 was a 2 3/4-inch shell holding 3 3/4-drams equivalent powder and 1 1/4-ounces of shot. later on flinching became a problem with 12 gauge shooters becouse of 300 round tournaments. Looks to me a bit like the raised rib on a Lutjic one barrel trap gun- and the 870- well, Rudy Etchen shot a 12 gauge 870 Trap Grade he got new in 1950-I'd like to have a C-note for every clay bird, box pigeon and game bird he shattered with that old Remmie- I could move in next to Bill Gates- or maybe his gardener!! Cred, Ser no 510553, Mfg 1928 , Numbers Match, 30" Donut Post Vent Rib that is stamped Imp Cyl but has been relined and is Mod, 2nd barrel is 30" Donut Post Vent Rib stamped full but is Mod, Stamp, This Winchester Model 12 was manufactured in 1955 and is in good condition for its age. Standard markings, with matching numbers on the receiver and barrel. Buckinghams tests led him to buy his own custom Super Fox, Bo Whoop. Bo Whoop patterned about 90% at 40 yards with specially bored barrels. According to the Serial# 1439865, and Winchester manufacturing records, this gun w. 12ga, #366988, 30 inch barrel, 2 1/2 inch chamber, full choke, solid rib, blue finish, straight grip checkered walnut stock, checkered walnut forearm, 13 3/4 LOP with "newer" Winchester pad, 12ga, #1417110, 30 inch barrel, 3 inch chamber, full choke, blue finish, walnut stock and forearm, solid rib, original red rubber pad, 1954. John Olin initiated an analysis of Winchesters commercial line in 1942. I have the wood all refinished. Free Shipping, No Credit Card Fees. Its failure to release on discharge made it impossible to shoot doubles [at skeet] with this particular sample. The staff concluded, Mechanically, the sample was not as good as other guns of the same model. Noted were machine marks on the breech bolt, wood not closely fitted, primers struck off center and sharp edges at the chamber. The pidgeon-grade duck gun was discontinued in 1961. However, Winchester and his succeeding family members successfully managed Winchester Repeating Arms Company from 1866 to 1919. The stock is the upgraded Monte Carlo style capped pistol grip, heavy pad, upgraded wood, and cheek rest. My 1951 Winchester Ammunition Handbook gives a comparison of 17 to 11 feet at 60 yards. Ithaca brought out their Magnum 10double to use the new shell. A Cold War era classic with smooth lines, a legendary back story, and an exotic-sounding name, Beretta's Model 71 was definitely a mouse that roared. No Reserve. at the best online prices at eBay! By signing up you agree to Guns.com's 28" vent rib, full choke barrel with front bead sight. Come join the discussion about targets, clays, hunting, gunsmithing, gear reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Mar 24, 2023 Winchester Model 12 Shotgun $150 Mar 24, 2023 Two Winchester Pump Shotguns $150 Mar 24, 2023 L.C. But I manage to concentrate, find the combination, and center a pair of easy sprigs. I know the patent date for this rib was 1919. Bids. Duck guns always sold for a slight premium over the standard model. No other pump shotgun feels like the duck gun. We get the FFL from your store others make you find it, copy it, and fax it. so recall pads helped and they offerd hydro coil-stocks. On the other hand, a duck caught in the middle of one of these dense-centered pattern sat 40 yards would receive a dozen or more pellets. The gun looked to be in excellent condition except some nitwit had inlayed a white plastic diamond in the stock at some point. It is not as slow or pokey as one might expect. The staff shot skeet with the gun and concluded It is not as fast as the standard Model-12, but nearly so., In further shooting tests the staff found We could not discern any practical difference in recoil effect when shooting standard three inch heavy duck loads. Winchester supplied two boxes of 3-inch shells loaded with 1 3/8-ounces of #5 chilled shot pushed by four drams equivalent of powder. A study of Michael McIntoshs book Best Guns indicates that a few thousand of the specialized waterfowl doubles of all brands were sold between 1921 and 1941. The help you need is to get a life. Since Every shotgun manufacturer is a friend of mine, Askins views were well known in the industry. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The straight grip stock, optional from 1935, was discontinued in the late 1950s. The trap load was included because trap shooting is suited to the duck gun. This little shotgun appears to have never been assembled and and has a 28 inch full choke barrel. The takedown joints are tight (See the instructions in Madis book if your Model 12 has a loose take-down joint). The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Westerns innovation was progressive-burning powder that deformed fewer shot during acceleration. The era of the double gun was ending as World War II approached. The Pitt-man-Robertson Act of 1937 began an 11 percent excise tax on sporting arms and ammunition. 2. Elmer Keith instructs:For the man who wants greater range and a bigger shot load for duck or goose shooting, the Model 12 Winchester is in a class by itself [with] the long 3 load. Nevertheless, the 1 7/8-ounce load appeared in the mid-50s and now a full two ounces of shot can be had in the 12 magnum. These were called long-range waterfowl guns.. Bluing is in overall very good condition. So a shooter really doesnt need a rib. It is, somehow, not easy to avoid shoving shells wrong end first into ones gun. Market hunting was legislated out of existence in the late teens. The Winchester Model 12 Heavy Duck Gun Proved Itself a Shooter, Colt No Longer Exclusive Owner of M4 Rifle, Mossberg 940 Pro Turkey & Tactical Review: Shotgun Shangri-La, SHOT Show 2023 Picks: Fossari CRX9 Sporting Over/Under, SHOT Show 2023 Picks: Browning Citori High Grade 50th Anniversary, 8 On-Target Concealed Carry Insurance Options (2022), 10 Affordable Double-Barrel Shotgun Options (2022), Best AR-15 Options For Any Budget And Buyers Guide (2022), Best Concealed Carry Handguns For Women (2022). When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. It is first shooting light. The 1 5/8-ounce load of the mid-30s bought the 12 magnum a few more yards of range. JavaScript is disabled. Could it be that the intended rough usage led to lack of care in the fitting of parts of early duck guns? That is true about Model 42s, but, as far as researchers know, it is not true about Model 12s. A forum community dedicated to Trap shooting enthusiasts. I would think if you did shoot you proble flinch like heck becouse ther must be a lot of jerk in you. Small depression in the magazine tube, as shown in pictures. Numbers match on barrel and receiver. Factory original Model 12s with round post ribs were made by Winchester, not Simmons. Later pump guns, such as the Remington Model 870 and Mossberg Model 500, do not have the slide lock feature. The marsh is in riot! Dolphin717, please give us a page reference in Stadt where he mentions Simmons sending Model 12s with ribs back to Winchester for finishing, and/or marketing. In those good old days of the 1960s the ducks flew just above the cattails and shots were plentiful. The finishes and rib are 100% Winchester and in great condi, Used Winchester Model 12 20 Gauge 26" barrel WS-1choked skeet Cutts compensator with restriction inserts good condition Buyer pays shipping Millers Gun Center Located in New, Winchester Model 12 pump action 12ga shotgun. Edwin Pugsley, in charge of Winchester at the time of receivership, is quoted in Williamsons book: The purchase of the company by the Olin interests brought a breath of life to the institution and brought to Winchester many things. Sto, Used Winchester 12 20 Gauge, Pump-Action Shotgun, 25" Barrel Wood Stock, No Box. Two birds tumble all awry from among the leaders. *** RARE *** Winchester Model 12 HEAVY DUCK GUN limited production run that combines the pre-64 Model 12 with a 12 ga. Magnum 30" barrel, factory production 3" Magnum, with a factory Simmons Vent Rib on an upgraded wood stock! (no choke stamp on barrel). Every once in a while a Model 12 comes through our club with a high Moneymaker rib like that. Wood is in very good condition showing very little handling or wear marks. seller description. M, ventilated rib, mid 1950's manufacture, completely original, only one ever produced by Winchester, ultimate rarity for the Model 12 co, 12ga, #1737096, standard gun that has been restocked and has a Simmons ventilated rib added, 12ga, 30 inch barrel, full choke, 2 3/4 inch chamber, 14 3/4 inch LOP with "Decelerator" pad, blu, Winchester Model 12 - 20ga - 26 - Improved Cylinder- NIB - UNFIRED - SN: MT0162 - AS NEW with high figured wood, Winchester Model 12 28 gauge Skeet solid rib. I decided to test the patterning of the five loads detailed in the accompanying table. These were turned out by the Hunter Arms Company of Fulton, N.Y. in L.C. There are 3 possible models that you might have: 1) Your Model 12 has a grooved slide handle and with a 'F' stamped after the serial number and has a lightweight alloy trigger guard. Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. So here is a history lesson on the skeet grade. organized, dont tell you a lot about what youre buying, and leave you on your See pi, Winchester Model 12, 28 gauge SKEET pump action shotgun, circa 1955. Consider the possibility of a hang-fire, an occasional event in 1912, in a gun without the slide lock feature. would buy from again without hesitation, Smith & Wesson S&W Vintage Screwdriver 8 Row Knurled Handle used (#234907824646), Remington 700 stamped metal Magazine Follower .222 .223 .17 used nice (#334728927905). Model 42s with later ribs than the donut post, with no Simmons markings or with Simmons markings, and with proof marks in the proper places are thought to have had their ribs installed at Simmons and sent back to Winchester for marketing or marketed at Simmons. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. We'rebringing a level of Featured Gun Classifieds Winchester Shotguns - Model 12, Winchester Model 12 - 20ga - 26 - Improved Cylinder- NIB - UNFIRED - SN: MT0162 - AS NEW with high figured wood - 2 3/4" Shells note: particles/dust can be seen in the photo, In very good condition. Everything functions as it should. My gun is a pump action Model 12 shotgun with a grooved slide handle (forearm). Madis states Ventilated ribs were rarely offered on [duck] guns. However, The fact is a few duck guns were provided with these ribs. Dave Riffles book and the various catalogs I have indicate that the Winchester new ventilated rib was an option from about 1954 to 1959. Refresh your browser window to try again. There are currently no customer product questions on this lot. My favorite 2 pins were Trap Guns made between 1957-1959 including special order Pigeon grades; fit, finish and blueing was best in those later years. Its been debated over the years if the solid rib model 12 barrel were silver brazed or fused with heat? It's what was refered to as a "Olympic Rib". Dave Riffle in his book, The Greatest Hammerless Repeating Shotgun Ever Built: The Model 12 1912-1964, states The Winchester Model 12 was, and still remains, the only gun that was offered in over 100 different variations or configurations during its lifetime. It is fair to say that Winchester produced Model 12 shotguns for every conceivable shotgunning special interest group, including duck hunters. Options for the Model 12 duck gun were reduced over the years, particularly following World War II. Ronald Stadt states in Winchester Shotguns and Shot-shells: All Winchester special ventilated rib magnum guns examined have sand-blasted receiver tops. Solid ribs were offered until the mid-1950s, except as noted by Stadt: The 1960 wholesale-retail catalog listed 30-inch solid rib pidgeon magnums. If you pull the trigger and the shell does not fire you must push the slide handle forward to unlock the action. Although the quality of the rib will be the same as the original Winchester, the only way a Simmons rib looks OK on a Model 12 is if they DON'T put their silly name down the side of the rib. If it's a 12 gauge, replacement factory butt stocks can be hard to come by. I have several 2-pin guns. Blue Book on this fine collector 12 gauge is around $2,700! Chamber marked 2 3/4", choke marked full, and 13 1/8" LOP. Today I have a nice collection of them, mostly target grade guns. The Model 21 double seemed the reasonable choice for Winchesters duck gun. Bob Hinman, in his 1972 GUN DIGEST article Ten Cents a Duck, notes that Shooting for the market was at one time a way of life for thousands of Americas skilled shotgunners.. Total production reached two million. View cart for details. ONLY ONE EVER PRODUCED BY WINCHESTER, ULIMATE RARITY. another state. Action works very nicely. Modified choke. custom bolt act. The earliest Simmons catalog I ever found was 1949 when Ernie began advertising his "Special vent rib" which was the "Dounut Post". 1935 3" magnum offerd, will convert all 12 gages if wanted to 3" magnums, the begining of the long forcing cone. Winchester Model 12 16 ga NIB Never Assembled! L.O.P. "Metal parts of the Model 12 are machined from chrome-molybdenum, the toughest, longest wearing and finest gun steel known." Barrel lengths were 30 or 32 inches, but 32-inch barrels were discontinued in 1948. This test determines if excessive peening of the bolt locking cut in the receiver has occurred. $899.97. The famous Winchester Model 1912 pump shotgun was designed by Winchester's Thomas C. Johnson. Keith stated in 1967: The old 70% standard is now obsolete and most any full choke gun will go 75% or better. Popularly named the Perfect Repeater at its introduction, it largely set the standard for pump action shotguns over its 51-year high-rate production life. His handload was a .heavy load of Herco powder and 2 ounces of shot, either 2s or 4s. Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. Bore and action are excellent. Simmons also removed Solid Ribs from barrels and added his rib to those barrels. Very fine as professionally custom finished, showing 95% of the refurbished blue, with scattered rust spotting and handling marks. This is not John Waynes revolver it is a modern work of art! I also have seen a few in my day where the solid rib was removed and actually sent a customers Black Diamond to Simmons back in the seventies to put a vent rib on a solid rib gun. 30" Full choke barrel. only one I have ever seen unless TS member owns one? Save $500.02 SKU: 3226743 . The duck gun sent to the American Rifleman staff in 1935 would not unlock during recoil.
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